...and just FYI just finished with qb tech support regarding crashing when trying to run payroll and result was this issue is an ongoing investigation with the engineering department they are still working on this INV-87838. There is nothing else they can do since it's a closed loop investigation!? The first post I read about this was March it is now June and no fix!!  WTH QB! Payroll is a big deal so going to have to move on.