Thanks for reply, I'm not sure why my response didn't post.

If I use alt+F4 all the time will the 30 days not apply to existing company? If so I can go through all the extra steps and start new in QB2014 then convert to 2018 and bypass every time I open company.

I have tried so many things that I am now getting error for password with any qbw file. I have tried forgot password on these and have had luck with 1 I have gotten various errors errors, can't verify, check internet, try later.

Thanks again